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No, it can't do it propperly! What you will get is a bad looking Video.
And there's no need to use the unlock MCF. You can change the Settings directly. Just click on "Frame rate", "Size" or something else (click on the word, not onto the Box), the you can Lock/Unlock single settings.
I've converted at least 13 of 15 files from PAL to NTSC using TMPGEnc with no problems, the videos looked fine.What I failed to mention is that when I encountered a problem ( with 2 of those 15 files) what I did was Framserved the video with Vdub and the audio that was extracted from the original)But the remaining thirteen files I did it with TMPGEnc alone with no problems.If you are referring that when you play it on the computer it shows green or not at all, then that's a codec issue on the player used, and if you try it on a standalone it will show just fine.
I know your Way, and it works, that's right, but TMPGEnc does not do a propper Framerate-Conversion. What you can do is a PAL-SpeedUp (23.976 -> 25 FpS) or a NTSC-SlowDown (25 -> 23.976 FpS). But than you only can convert progressive Video, you must use the Option "Do not convert Frame rate" and you have to use a Tool like BeSweet to SpeedUp/SlowDown the Audio-Part.
If you need 25 -> 29.97 FpS or 29.97 -> 25 FpS, you have to use AVISynth to get realy smooth Motion and you don't need BeSweet.
Nope, I used it standalone and set it at 29.97 fps, I wish there were a way for me to send you a vid I converted so you could see for yourself, it handled it quite well with without a really noticable change in video quality. I Use Goldwave 5 (EXCELLENT audio tool) and extract the audio with believe it or not, no sync issues whatsoever when I use Vdub and set it to frameserve, Then in TMPGEnc for the source video I set it to use the .vbs that I created from the frameserve in vdub, and for the audio source I load the wave that goldwave decompresed, the framerate is set at standard 29.97 NTSC, and the result has no sync sync issues at all. The reason I use the unlock .mcf is it unlocks everything on the source and not just a single aspect, who knows, maybe that's why it's working for me. ;)
It is a VERY Well Known fact that Tmpgenc does not do Correct Frame tate conversions, What Tmpgenc does Is use Frame Duplication and Decimation which is the "Incorrect" way to Convert Framerates, the Correct way is to use Field Interpolation, with Files converted from or to Pal/NTSC with Tmpgenc will have Repeated Frames which will give a Start stop sort of effect in High motion areas..Because you can not see it just means that you do not have an eye for it I guess and doesn"t mean that the effect is not there because it is ..I have answered Many posts over the last year about this very Problem with Tmpgenc and most poeple notice the stuttering effect and come here and ask why they can"t convert from or to Pal/NTSC without this effect even though it is subtle at times..Hori the author of Tmpgenc says that he has plans to add correct Frame rate conversion to Tmpgenc 3.0 and him just saying this Proves that tmpgenc does not do it correctly at this time..But if you don"t notice the effect then well I guess that is good so you don"t have to use seperate tool to do it Properly....Cheers
I agree with Kika and Minion.
TMPG cannot do proper frame rate conversion.
MenderOne you are obviously a novice encoder or you would have realised this and noticed the problem. ANY conversion of frame rates in TMPG will cause playback artifacts. These artifacts are a sort of regular stuttering every second or so or a slight pause every second.
If you haven't noticed this when watching a movie then you can't be very observant.
It's best seen on moving parts of the image, say when a car goes from left to right. It will semm like the car is stuttering.
Take it from me it is there you just haven't noticed it yet. Once you do it's annoying. There are correct ways to do frame rate conversions however.
>Guy's , My vision is a perfect 20/20, I just checked the converted files VERY closely, I've been tinkering quite exhaustively with TMPGEnc settings for quite some time, have read many posts and suggestions regarding conversion in King Johns Guides, VCD help, Kwags KVCD , Doom 9 and the like for hours on end , trying and retrying till the results end up acceptable, and TRUST me, I was VERY observant as I strive for the best possible results I can get from a given source, the start stop effects (even in high motion areas)were NOT present,nor in NO way would it have been acceptable for me to even burn, maybe it's because I adjust and readjust and explore with many different settings dependant on each individual source that I work with, and that's why it's working for me.I don't know what else to say other than to try exhaustively as I have and you too will see that albieght it may not "correctly" convert Pal to NTSC as has been stated, it's working just fine with me without any of the afforementioned start stops, and many of the source vids I have used have fast scenes and the like.
I am one of the most PATIENT guys you could ever run into when it comes to getting things done right, I stop at nothing and continue for hours till I get the desired results and it is in that manner that many veteran encoders have learned new tricks with programs that others have yet to discover.
:)
>I agree with Kika and Minion.
>TMPG cannot do proper frame rate conversion.
>MenderOne you are obviously a novice encoder or you would have realised this and noticed the problem. ANY conversion of frame rates in TMPG will cause playback artifacts. These artifacts are a sort of regular stuttering every second or so or a slight pause every second.
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>If you haven't noticed this when watching a movie then you can't be very observant.
>It's best seen on moving parts of the image, say when a car goes from left to right. It will semm like the car is stuttering.
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>Take it from me it is there you just haven't noticed it yet. Once you do it's annoying. There are correct ways to do frame rate conversions however.
>Guy's , My vision is a perfect 20/20, I just checked the converted files VERY closely, I've been tinkering quite exhaustively with TMPGEnc settings for quite some time, have read many posts and suggestions regarding conversion in King Johns Guides, VCD help, Kwags KVCD , Doom 9 and the like for hours on end , trying and retrying till the results end up acceptable, and TRUST me, I was VERY observant as I strive for the best possible results I can get from a given source, the start stop effects (even in high motion areas)were NOT present,nor in NO way would it have been acceptable for me to even burn, maybe it's because I adjust and readjust and explore with many different settings dependant on each individual source that I work with, and that's why it's working for me.I don't know what else to say other than to try exhaustively as I have and you too will see that albieght it may not "correctly" convert Pal to NTSC as has been stated, it's working just fine with me without any of the afforementioned start stops, and many of the source vids I have used have fast scenes and the like.
I am one of the most PATIENT guys you could ever run into when it comes to getting things done right, I stop at nothing and continue for hours till I get the desired results and it is in that manner that many veteran encoders have learned new tricks with programs that others have yet to discover.
:)
>I agree with Kika and Minion.
>TMPG cannot do proper frame rate conversion.
>MenderOne you are obviously a novice encoder or you would have realised this and noticed the problem. ANY conversion of frame rates in TMPG will cause playback artifacts. These artifacts are a sort of regular stuttering every second or so or a slight pause every second.
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>If you haven't noticed this when watching a movie then you can't be very observant.
>It's best seen on moving parts of the image, say when a car goes from left to right. It will semm like the car is stuttering.
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>Take it from me it is there you just haven't noticed it yet. Once you do it's annoying. There are correct ways to do frame rate conversions however.
Look if you are happy with the way your movie looks then fine, but I can guarantee you that the artifact is there, it's only slight but it's there and there are many many others that will confirm this, even the author admits it. You don't have some special technique that no of us know about. Many of us have been using TMPG exhastively too over the years and would know if there was some magic setting to get correct frame rate conversion.
It's simply a matter of you not knowing what you are looking for.
Ashy, have you exhaustively tinkered with the latest version?, It hasn't been out for all that long.I have been, since it came out. Every new version opens doors to new possibilities. I will always exhaustive search for them. Don't get me wrong now, but possibilities do exist. No matter HOW much experience one may have, no matter HOW many years one has encoding or in whatever field one may be in, there will always be a door open to new ideas, techniques, and the like. Hell, I have seen some bright individuals (Even Novices at that)come up with ideas and find new ways to doing things that have left EXPERTS astounded. When a technical mind gets TOO technical, sometimes even the obvious has been overlooked, some will admit it, others DARE not to for sake of saving face or ego. I have an EXTREMELY open mind and will never say that an individual does "not have some special technique that others don't know about" I on the other hand would probably say something to the effect of "Hmmm it's possible,one never knows" But you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. You feel one way about things as others feel differently. To each's own I guess. ;) Peace
Well, just did a PAL to NTSC conversion and an NTSC to PAL conversion with the latest version and yes, the artifact is still there. But like I say if it doesn't bother you then there is no problem. :]
I'm using Windows 98SE, so I'd have problems with >4GB, unless the file is saved in 4GB sections.
I ask for this extra 2-pass file to be saved because If I want to fit a movie in a 700MB CD and have to change average or maximum bitrate to accomplish this, I have to wait for TMPGENC analyze the whole movie again just for a bit change.
If I could use the previously created 2-pass file again I could save the half of the time the whole process takes, and that is MORE important for me that the fact that it could take 5GB of space in my hard disk.
Have a look at option->environmental setting->CPU->Cache setting. I don't know if this is on by default, but I have it enabled with a 4000Mb maximum cache size. This may be what you're looking for...
im having trouble converting an avi encoded using divx 5.03 to vcd or anything else for that matter. when i try to open the avi TEMPGEnc keeps on saying that the file cannot open or is an unsupported format. it works fine and have had no troubles using divx 5.02...so if anyone knows what is stuffing up, please help me.
What exactly is JUNK frames? And if it effects TMPGEnc, and causes it to crash midway or at some point of the encoding process, how can one solve the problem?
Admin, my apologies, I don't know how this happened , but I see this message as double posted, it wasn't my intention, please delete this particular one, I tried , but it says only admins can edit.
I've been tinkering around with the Ghost Reduction settings, trying to figure out how to best put them to work. I've ended up with some pretty nasty looking results a couple of times.
I have a collection of TV capture MPEG1's that I am tring to clean up as best as I can and convert to 352x240 MPEG2 so I can make a DVD out of them (I can fit 8+ TV episodes on 1 DVDR), but there is ghosting in the files I would like to remove.
Can the authors of this software or anybody else with some good info about using the ghost reduction filter settings provide some documentation here of how to use the feature? I plan to register this product but I really do need to use the ghost reduction feature on a set of files, and believe that software I pay for should come with good documentation. ;)
I saw a post way back in March where somebody else asked for information about this and it was never replied to.
When you Get the "Plus" version it comes with a Quite extensive Help File, all you need to do to use this Help file is Go and Download the "Plus version" by Clicking the Banner Below(I know it says DVD Author But you get the Plus version at the Same site), The "Ghost Reduction" filter will only work on Mild to Moderate Ghosting, and the Way the Filter is used depends on the File you are encodeing, and sometimes some Ghosting can be cleared up with the Help of other Filters Like Noise Reduction or a type of Bluring...The Filters in Tmpgenc are Ok for some things But if you really have Really bad Ghosting and Noise you should maybe use a Differant Program to Clean up the Image, Like Maybe some Vitrual Dub Filters or AVISynth Filters, or clean up the Image in a High end Editing Program Like AVID, Premier Or Vegas Video, these Programs have Features that are good at Cleaning up Images or at least disguising any Defects..One thing that would really Help the Video Quality would be to Not capture to Mpeg1..The way I capture TV Shows and other Stuff is Capture to Full Reasolution (720+480) Low Compression AVI like HuffyUV or even better Uncompressed AVI, then I use AVISynth to add Noise Filters and what ever other Filters I need to use to clean up the Image and resize the Resolution, then Frameserve the File useing AVISynth to My encoder (Not Tmpgenc but it works Fine) But I would use the Resolution of 352+480, you will get Much better Quality with a Higher Resolution , and useing this resolution and a Bitrate of about 2500KBS you should get close to 4 hours of Video on a DVD-r and 352+480 is a DVD Compliant Resolution..Captureing to Mpeg1 is a Very Lossy Format so you are Looseing a Lot of the Image detail, captureing to Low Compression AVI will give you a LOT Better Quality and you should have less Ghosting also...well Good Luck
Because the last version that I have found that works with no problems for me is 2.59. This is the version of Plus that I would like to purchase (as the download version) but the only one on Pegasys is 2.512. I would have asked them but couldn't find any way to contact them except if I was already a registered user or wanted to be a retail seller.
I would like to request a option to cut a movie in half. With out having to guess on vbr its a big pain. Takes me 2-3 times befor i can even get it. Thanks
Tmpgenc"s Editor does not Support VBR Files, But you can use the "Source Range" to choose the First and second halves so you don"t have to edit the files, But what would be best would be to get a Real Mpeg editor like "Mpeg2VCR".......
Why don't you use the cut/merge feature of TMPGEnc? All you have to do is select mpeg tools , select the merge/cut tab, load the file using the add button then click on the file and select edit, then move the slider of the preview to where you want to start and end and run it, clear the file afterwards and repeat these steps for the second half. Hope this helps.
That is What he is Useing, And that is what he is explaining that he is Haveing a Problem with, the "Merge & Cut" does not Support Acurate editing of VBR Files pluss is Seems to crash on poeple all the Time...
Why don't you use the cut/merge feature of TMPGEnc? All you have to do is select mpeg tools , select the merge/cut tab, load the file using the add button then click on the file and select edit, then move the slider of the preview to where you want to start and end and run it, clear the file afterwards and repeat these steps for the second half. Hope this helps.
The DVDAuthor's cut and edit interface is *awsome*. Wish its interface was in TMpegEnc.
I think the problem is that both programs will only cut on an IFrame, thus cutting in TMpeg requires a lot of trial and error, since there is no indication of what frame is an IFrame in the merge/cut/or source range setting.
Its a lot more steps, I do my cut/join/merge in DVDAuthor, blow out a DVD folder, then rip the folder into one big VOB.
>That is What he is Useing, And that is what he is explaining that he is Haveing a Problem with, the "Merge & Cut" does not Support Acurate editing of VBR Files pluss is Seems to crash on poeple all the Time...
I guess I've been fortunate then, as I usually just cut by moving the slider to the half mark, or to a scene where it's the ending of a subject matter or a silence. I've never had a problem with the cut/merge feature.
MenderOne you don't seem to understand what the problem is.
Sendkeys encodes his MPEGs using VBR (Variable Bit Rate) because of this there is no way of knowing how big each part of a cut file is going to be. For instance lets say we have a 2 hour movie and we use TMPG to cut it at 1 hour so as to split it in half.
The problem would be that the first half may not be the same size as the second half and there is no way of knowing how big each part will be until cut because a different bitrate has been used in each part therefore making each part a different size.
Sendkeys my advice to you is to use BBMPEG to multiplex your video and audio. BBMPEG allows you to set a size in MB for each part.
If you do not get the files, get a resource editor (I use resource workshop), and you can edit most all the strings in the program. The author did a very good job of seperating the strings into stringtables (as opposed to hardcoding them).
Of course, if he put a CRC checker on the exe file (to prevent machine code hacking), the program will probably do something (like no longer start).
Anyway, this should be easy to do, the author seems to want to support multiple languages (however, the support and code maintaince goes up with each language added.. ie: Download in Spanish, French, etc.. takes effort - hopefully someone else does the web page design, since we really want the developer working on improvements to the code).
I'm editing in Avid Xpress DV 2.0 My client wants for his WEB page my final product to be in MPEG1. Avid creates 2 files one for audio and one for video if I export in Mpeg. My client wants just one that combines audio and video. I'd like to know will this product let me export into a QT reference file and use that file to put out a MPEG1 file combined to give him on CD?
All you need to do if you have one Mpeg audio file and one mpeg1 video file is simply Multiplex the 2 files together, It takes one a Couple Minutes, To do it with Tmpgenc just go to "File" to "Mpeg Tools" to "Simple Multiplex" then Just load the Mpeg1 video in and Audio in then Choose "Mpeg1 Video-CD Non-Standard" from the Dropdown Menu, Then Click "run", then it will Join the audio and Video files into a Mpeg1 file....
When i try to start the free program I get error in kernal32.dll! The program worked fine when i had XP, but my computer crashed so now that i reformated and installed Windows ME it just gives me error in kernal32.dll and wont start up !
Has any one else had this problem ? And how did you fix it >?
I agree with you.
I like this product.
The menues management will certainly improve in the future.
I would like to be able to define default behaviours (profile).
Since I use Tmpgenc 2.512 for more than 2 hours, it crashes my norton firewall.
I receive this message: "Norton Internet Security has encountered a program error. Desinstal and reinstall Norton Internet Security to protect your computer".
It's the 3rd time I receive this message and I'm fed up with desisnstalling/reinstalling and then reconfiguring all my firewall.
With the previous versions of tmpg I didn't have this problem.
I run TmpgEnc on:
Windows 98 SE in French
Tmpg Enc 2.512 in English.
My Firewall is Norton Internet Security 2003 in French.
It appears that your resources are being depleted as the encoding process goes nearing the 2 hour mark, i.e not enough memory, or hardrive space, as windows needs enough hard drive space for caching, when your hard drives free space becomes more and more depleted, resource intesive programs such as nortons antivirus and Internet security run out of it's needed resources, so it would cause a crash. If you are encoding into 2 hours or more , then my guess is the caching of such a lengthy the encoding process, is what's causing this, which leads me to believe you need to free up some resources , avail more harddrive space by getting rid of what you don't need , and see how it goes from there, if not then increase your memory.